Adoption as a picture of the gospel

What can adoption teach us about the Gospel? In this episode of the Radically Christian Bible Study podcast Kyle and Leah Beard join Wes McAdams to share their story of building their family through adoption. They share how their faith motivated their decision and what it has taught them about God.

Kyle and Leah open up about the emotional journey of foster care and adoption. They discuss having to surrender their own desires and trust God’s plan for each child. Adoption gave them a deeper understanding of God’s unconditional love for all people. It also showed the redemptive power of God turning broken situations into beautiful stories.

This is a moving episode sharing an intimate adoption journey and the lessons it teaches about God’s redeeming love.

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Transcript (Credit: Beth Tabor)

WES: Welcome to the Radically Christian Bible Study podcast. I’m your host, Wes McAdams. Here we have one goal: Learn to love like Jesus. I want to begin today by reading from Ephesians 1, starting in verse 3. Paul writes, “Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love he predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the beloved. In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of our trespasses, according to the riches of his grace, which he lavished upon us, in all wisdom and insight making known to us the mystery of his will, according to his purpose, which he set forth in Christ as a plan for the fullness of time, to unite all things in him, things in heaven and things on earth.” 

Today we’re going to talk with Kyle and Leah Beard about adoption and what they’ve learned about God and about the gospel because of their experience with adoption. I hope that you enjoy this conversation, and, as always, I hope this conversation helps all of us learn to love like Jesus. 

Well, Kyle and Leah Beard, welcome to the podcast.

Kyle: Thank you for having us.

LEAH: Thank you.

WES: Thank you guys for joining me. I’m pretty sure that Kyle has probably been on the podcast before, but I’m confident this is Leah’s first time, so I’m excited to have the entire Beard team. Well, not the entire Beard team, but the mom and dad of the Beard team.

Kyle: Yeah, yeah.

WES: Fantastic. Well, why don’t we start by just having y’all introduce yourselves and tell us about yourselves and your kids and introduce us to who are the Beards.

Kyle: So I’m Kyle Beard. I have the privilege of working with Wes at the church of Christ on McDermott Road, working with middle school and high school students, and I have to say it, I’m from California, so that’s usually part of my first introduction.  

WES: You always have to get that in there.

Kyle: I always have to. It’s just ‑‑ that’s just who I am. And we’ve been married to Leah ‑‑ I’ve been married to Leah for 14 years. We have three beautiful girls, and I’ll let you tell more about you. I don’t want to tell everything. 

LEAH: Well, I’m Leah, his wife, and his redeeming factor because I am a Texan, Texan‑American, so you’re welcome. Got him here as quick as I could.

WES: Nice.

Leah: Yeah, so been married 14 years, which just does not seem possible because I’m way too young to have been married that long.  

KYLE: Definitely.

LEAH: And we have three kids: Grace, who is 13; Eden, who is 6; and Adalyn, who is 4, so we are busy.

WES: No doubt. Well, thank you guys for what you do, and thank you for having this conversation today. I’m really excited for people to not only hear your story, but also to see how it ties in to theology and how we think about God. So let’s talk about your adoption experiences and kind of get to know that story and how that all came about.

LEAH: Well, what brought us to adoption isn’t always the funnest part of any story. It was a lot of heartbreak. It was a fertility issue. We have secondary unexplained infertility. So we were blessed with Grace; she is our biological daughter. She was actually a surprise ‑‑ a blessed surprise, but we’re very thankful for her. But then when we decided to grow our family, just it ‑‑ you know, we weren’t able to successfully get pregnant and carry a child full‑term, so just through a journey of tears and struggle, God brought us to adoption, and that’s how he finished our family for us, was just through that means.  

You want to add to that?  

KYLE: We both have people in our families that have adopted children or are adopted themselves, and so it’s something that we always wanted to do. I felt like it was something that was just what we were going to do a little bit later on in our lives, but things changed, as Leah said, so we got to do it sooner and have the blessing of that. So Grace, again, is our biological child, and then Eden and Addie are also our children, but we’ve adopted them two different ways, actually. 

And so you want to tell a little bit about Eden’s adoption experience? 

LEAH: Sure. So just because of our journey and where we were, we chose private adoption with Eden, and so, essentially, what that looks like is you go through the process of background checks and your home study, and you get put on a waiting list. And then when a birth mom decides she would like to place her child up for adoption, you are then selected by that birth mom, and you meet and you have a mutual agreement of becoming a family for this child, a team together. And we actually got to be at the hospital when Eden was born, which was a roller coaster of emotions. Just a very, very cool experience just to see such selfless love. Sorry, I might get emotional a few times, but that’s because it’s an emotional story. And so that was how we got Eden. Her birth mom chose us. 

And then Addie came to us through the foster care system, so just a very different route. Two different places in our life that led us to those two different processes. With Eden, my heart was vulnerable and not in a place where foster care was something I felt I could handle because foster care, reunification with the biological family is the first goal. And I was looking ‑‑ we were looking to grow our family. We wanted to be the parents and to raise a child, so we wanted a birth mom to choose us and to go that route. And then with Addie, because of the graciousness of God and the healing that had taken place and our eyes opened to the world of adoption and just seeing that need, we were in a place where we were ready for unification to be the goal and to be that family, however that looked, whether temporary or permanent.

WES: I imagine that ‑‑ I mean, I can’t even really begin to imagine what the ‑‑ as you said, the roller coaster of emotions, in different ways, with both of those situations, and I remember when y’all were fostering Addie and hoping to adopt her. Talk about that for just a second, if you will, just that sort of ‑‑ multiple priorities and desires and hopes. You know, you ‑‑ on the one hand, I can’t imagine how attached you get from day one to this beautiful, wonderful human being who has come into your life, but then, ultimately, you want what’s best for them. And then, you know, on the one hand, you think, well, that may be being with their biological family, but that may not be what’s best for them, and then you want them to continue to be part of your family. So talk through the emotions of fostering with the possibility of adoption.

Kyle: Yeah, so we ‑‑ you know, we felt the desire and felt the calling to foster, and with the intent to adopt, but something that they talked about with us ‑‑ with all of the people that were in our ‑‑ kind of our class of people fostering was that you probably aren’t going to be able to adopt the first child that you have in your home. Just statistically, it’s not very high, but we want you to love every child that’s in your home, and we were definitely willing to do that. And so it was a roller coaster in that, you know, we were able to provide some respite, which we can get into a little bit more later ‑‑ but respite for some families that needed some help. And so we had some kids in our home that we didn’t know very well, but we knew that they needed some love and care and a positive environment, so we provided that. 

And then when we got Addie, it was during the summertime and, you know, it was kind of a, I mean, unexpected call. It was, you know, after midnight when they said, hey, we’ve got a baby that needs a home. Will you take care of her? And we said, sure. So ‑‑ but just the idea of taking care of a child, loving on a child that you may not have for very long at all, it can be very scary because you have to find the balance of ‑‑ you want to invest in that child, you want to care for them, and I think the Bible talks about how, you know, obviously, we need to care for orphans and widows and different things, people that need care and love and support that they’re not getting at home, and you do it for as long as you can and then you move on to the next person if they end up being taken away. And, you know, we’re thankful that Addie was not taken away and appreciate everyone who helped us with that. But yeah, it was a roller coaster, definitely, even after having her for two years, three years, we finally were able to adopt her. I guess she was just over two years old. That roller coaster, too, of trying to get that finalized was, yeah, just wild. 

LEAH: For me, my experience with Eden and the relationship I have with her birth mom, I felt like really prepared me for loving Addie’s birth mom. I love Eden’s birth mom.  I do, with all my heart. And so when we got Addie, it felt so natural for me to love her birth mom and to want her to have the best life possible. So I remember one of the first things I did is ‑‑ a lady from church did newborn photos of Addie, and I created a photo album and gave them to Addie’s birth mom, and she did have two visits. So it was just coming from this place of love and realizing she was not my child. I was loving her, I was caring for her, but this was her child. And her life was broken, and my life’s been broken at times, and we all deserve that chance of redemption. 

So initially, that was kind of what ‑‑ my mindset and what got me through, and I prayed fervently for this birth mom and just that she would experience renewal of her life. And then, as time went on, it became clear that her choices were not leading to that reunification and that redemption. But then you also have to then go through the process of, well, are there family members that could ‑‑ outside of the mom and dad unit that could care for this child, and then beyond that, friends of the family. And so going through all of that, that was a little harder because I hadn’t experienced outside of this little bubble that I had with Eden, with birth mom and us and that relationship. And so when we went beyond that, that was when a lot of surrender for me had to happen and a lot of just telling God, okay, she’s yours. You love her more than I do, which is mind‑blowing because, at that point, I’m head over heels for this little human that I’m raising and kissing and rocking to sleep and ‑‑ but I knew God loved her and wanted her to be where she needed to be, whether that was with me or someone else, and so just a daily constant surrender of your will.

WES: Wow, that’s awesome, and what a great ‑‑ what a great word. And I think on both ‑‑ I like the way that you talked about the relationship with Eden’s mom and even the selfless love that she had in doing what she did and making the decision that she made. So there was surrender there, and then there was surrender on your part to accept God’s will, whatever that might be. 

You guys have already kind of hinted at this a little bit, but when you think about this experience with both of the girls, and you think about adoption in general, are there any particular scriptures that come to your mind, and why those scriptures and how do they shape your thinking on this?

LEAH: We talked about that a lot, and I actually ‑‑ I should have brought it out, but while waiting on Eden, I kept a prayer board, and it was just like a tri‑fold science board, you know, that you do science fair stuff, and I would set it in her room and just write and pray and just pour my heart out because it was so many emotions and so much hurt and healing all happening intertwined at the same time. For me, the best way to cope with and move forward was to write it down and just put it up and display it and pray over it. 

But with her ‑‑ I was looking at the board last night and just going over everything I’d written. It was so much of wait on the Lord, because my faith had brought me to the point where, from a small child, I knew I’m a mother. Like, God created me with just this nurturing heart. I knew I was ‑‑ I’m created to be a mother. I knew that. And I know that God is good and his promises are good, so I felt such assurance that he was going to fulfill this innate desire in me. I just had to wait and see what that was going to look like. And that’s hard, because I had this idea of I’m going to get married, I’m going to have babies, I’m going to grow them in my belly and feel them kick and go through birth, you know, all these things that you dream about and think about, but just laying all that down. And, anyway, so for me, it was Psalm 27:14, “Wait patiently for the Lord. Be brave and courageous. Yes, wait patiently for the Lord.” Because I think a lot of times fear wants to take over and handicap you from stepping out of your plan and stepping out of your comfort zone, because there were a lot of like ‑‑ I mean, sitting in a room with a pregnant woman discussing her handing her child to you, like those are big, uncomfortable moments and conversations, and so just having the courage to step out in that faith and having the patience to wait and let it all happen in God’s timing and in his just perfect way of designing and doing things. One of my favorite things is when we finally decided, okay, you know, this isn’t gonna happen through us and we’re gonna pursue adoption, that was in February when we went to the adoption ‑‑ like the first meeting where they explained the process, and then we got Eden in November, which was exactly nine months later, which is ‑‑ 

WES: Wow.

LEAH: ‑‑ the time it takes to conceive a child and have a child.  And so I just always thought that was so beautiful that, you know, from the moment we started until we got it, it’s like I went through that growing and birthing process of getting a child, so…

And then you had one. 

KYLE: Yeah. I mentioned it earlier already, but James 1:27 talks about how religion that our God, our Father, accepts as pure and faultless is this, “to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself being polluted by the world.” You know, Eden and Addie were not orphans in that they didn’t have any family or any parents, but they were someone that needed help. They were someone who needed to be taken care of. And I think, you know, there’s lots of other verses that talk about adoption and God being the father to the fatherless and, you know, grafting us into his family and just the beautiful picture of ‑‑ that he wants all people to be in his family, and no matter what we’re coming from and where we’re going or what’s going on, like he’s called his people to reach out, to be someone who is welcoming in strangers and caring for those who need to be cared for. 

And so I love the book of James, for one, and so that verse always sticks out in my mind in that if you have opportunity to provide any sort of service, whether it’s adoption or just a gift basket, whatever it is, you’re providing for someone’s needs. I think we’re called to do that because we’re supposed to, again, love our neighbors as ourselves, and so we would want people, obviously, to help us if we have a need, and children are very dependent upon the people around them. And Eden and Addie were just birthed and they needed someone to be taking care of them, so we listened to that calling that God had put on our hearts to help those who we had an opportunity to help. And it can be scary, but we know it was the right thing. It was definitely ‑‑ as Leah said, the timing of things, all the little things that added up or that came along during the process, we just knew God’s hand was in it and we’re thankful that he used us to provide a home for them, so…

LEAH: I think this also applies to our birth moms, too. 

KYLE: It does. 

LEAH: I mean, they are swimming in distress in this world that is full of evil, and now we’re connected forever, permanently, to these women. And while I have this beautiful relationship with Eden’s birth mom in that we communicate, we’re Facebook friends, I don’t, unfortunately, have that with Addie’s birth mom. We’ve lost touch and I don’t know where she is, but I have prayer, and I cover these women in constant prayer, and I believe that that is going to make a difference in their lives. I may not get to see it and I may not be the direct person that God uses, but I’m gonna pray for those people that he’s going to send. So it just reaches so much further beyond us and these children. It’s just this whole family unit that is different and, to the world, seems like that’s impossible. You know, how can you make this work? But it does because God works everything out in crazy, beautiful ways that don’t make sense, but yet they do, so…

WES: The tagline and the motto of this podcast is that we want to learn to love like Jesus, and I have to say that, as you guys were talking, it’s obvious that you are loving like Jesus. You are loving your children, and I love the fact that you brought up loving their birth mothers like Jesus. And I want to tell y’all, and I don’t tell you enough, how much you inspire me to love better, and I love the way that you love your family and you set such a tremendous example of Christian love. 

So let’s talk a little bit about the decision to adopt. You talked a little bit about why adoption was an option and the route that you went, but as far as your faith and scripture itself, how did that shape your decision to go this route?

Kyle: Like I said, we have a history and family members of adoption, and so it’s something that was just ‑‑ it was talked about. It wasn’t, you know, some secret thing. And, you know, I think my family and Leah’s family, we both were told and encouraged, you know, to ‑‑ if we have opportunity to help those that need help and to love those that may not have people loving them, to do that again. And so, as Leah mentioned, as you mentioned, it’s not just the children. Eden and Addie needed love, but also their birth moms in the whole process, and so I’m thankful for ‑‑ that there’s organizations that provide services and connections for us and people that want to adopt. You know, that’s the church family. We’re doing things together. We are helping each other, and we’re thankful, again, that we have the opportunity. And so I think we have to listen to what God is calling us to do and step out in faith and realize that it is scary, but that the Holy Spirit wants us to show love, to bring people in and give them a better life. We’re not perfect people and we mess up, and we’re parents who don’t always do our best. Some days are a lot better than others, and there’s challenges, but it’s also just a huge blessing in knowing that we’re following what God is calling us to do.  And faith in action, again, going back to James, like you just ‑‑ you do it because God is calling you to do it and you love those because he loved us, and it’s just ‑‑ it’s a beautiful picture. 

LEAH: Yes. And, for me, this is gonna sound kind of crazy, but this was probably ‑‑ going back to the beginning and from the start of our fertility journey, it was probably one of the best things that could have ever happened to me. And the only way that makes sense is I think about Paul and his teachings and his writings and that you consider it pure joy when you face these troubles and trials, because going through all of that brought me to my knees, and my relationship with God and my communication with him just grew and grew daily because this was something that I couldn’t fix. I can’t make myself get pregnant and have children; only God can, and I knew that. I knew he was the giver of life, and I knew he was the healer of all wounds. So it was clinging to his words and this truth that I held fast to, knowing he is faithful, he is good, he loves me, and he knows the desires of my heart. He knew how I was created. He knew the kind of life I desired to have, and he knew I wanted to raise these children to be followers of him and pursuers of him. So it was just letting go of ‑‑ you know, we all have this idea of how life is gonna look, and we all have this perfect picture in our head, everyone does, of X, Y, Z, and it’s letting go of that and it’s letting go of your fear and just ‑‑ I said this earlier, but like jumping off a cliff in blind faith and trusting that God is gonna give you wings and he’s gonna carry you to where you need to be, because it was scary. It was really scary to just let go. 

And when you go into adoption, like you’re giving up this idea. You’re letting go of this one idea and this one path, and you’re trusting this new one that is going to have all these little ‑‑ what’s the word ‑‑ like extra paths and hardships and, yeah, so many things that can change and so many things that can go wrong or right. And it was such a ‑‑ just a surrender and a faith and trusting in his goodness and trusting that he works all things together for our good. And, yeah, it was scary, but at the same time, I’m so thankful that I went through all of this hand in hand with God and that I just have this trust in him and this lack of fear now that I don’t think I would have had had we not experienced such loss and heartache and surrender.

WES: Yeah. Wow, that’s beautiful. Let me ask you this. I know that for every parent, regardless of how they become a parent ‑‑ and with Grace, with your oldest, with your biological daughter, I’m sure that there were things that you experienced and learned about God through that experience, through having a child and through being a parent and raising her, but then I imagine there’s a whole different set of lessons and experiences and understandings that you gain about God based on parenting through adoption. There are things about God that I understand now, as a parent, that I never understood before, and I imagine that you have a unique insight on some aspects of theology, aspects of who God is based on being an adoptive parent because, in a way ‑‑ not in a way, but in a very literal sense God is an adoptive parent to us in the church, as Christians. And so talk about that, if you would. What have you gained as far as theological insights to who God is? And you’ve talked about this a little bit already, Leah, but what do you understand now about God based on this experience that you might not have understood before?

LEAH: Yeah. Becoming a parent for the first time, I think we finally start to grasp that unconditional love of God because it is such a natural thing for when a child is born and you hold that newborn baby for the first time. I mean, that’s how I felt with Grace. She was it. Like I loved her. I would have laid down my life for her in a split second, in a heartbeat. But then the adoption journey looks different, and I’m really thankful ‑‑ really thankful for the people that helped prepare me for this journey and that confirmed the emotions that go with that.  Because being at the hospital, you know, when we were there when Eden was born and I first held her, it’s different, but that’s okay. And I’m thankful people told me that before experiencing that, that that is okay, because it very much ‑‑ I’m holding a precious baby, and it’s a sweet, innocent child and you love them, but I was holding someone else’s child. And I’m there with the birth mom and I’m watching them bond and interact, and then she hands her to me and I feed her a bottle. 

And so going through that, and then when we brought Eden home, one night I’m holding her and I’m giving her a bottle and I just start telling her the story of how badly I wanted her and everything we went through to get her, and just opening myself up to that, I think I started to understand how much God loves everyone, even those not in the body of Christ, even those that live outside of our church and world. He loves them. Because I had the capacity to knock down all these walls and to love Eden’s birth mom and to love Eden just as holy and just as purely as I love myself, as I love Grace, I just ‑‑ I think my understanding of God’s capacity to purely love everyone is so different, and I think it’s made me better at seeing the broken or seeing people that live differently from me and not seeing them as a bad person or as evil, but they’re trapped in evil. They’re stuck in sin. It’s allowed me to kind of separate the person from the bad, which I think that’s what God does. He sees us as his creation, as made in his image. So it ‑‑ yes, I would say adoption just kind of opened my eyes up to this whole world of purely, genuinely lay‑down‑my‑life love for someone that’s outside of kind of the natural order of how God set up the world in the family unit. And I know it’s possible because I’ve done it, and so I know anyone can genuinely, purely love someone to the point of giving your life. 

KYLE: I think something that was reiterated and exemplified through this process is the idea of redemption and selflessness. Redemption in that God can take any situation and turn it for something good. I mean, we see that time and time again with the Israelites and the prophets and the judges, and God making things the way that they should be even through a person’s choices being bad. But the selfless act of these birth moms giving up their child so that they can be taken care of by someone else is really, really challenging. And so, again, the idea that God can make anything ‑‑ any bad situation into something good. He can turn anything that’s been, again, just soaked with sin and turn it into something that is beautiful and redeemable, and that nobody is too far gone. Nobody is doing things that God says, no, I’m good. I’m not gonna handle ‑‑ I can’t handle what you’re going through. He’s not that God. God can handle whatever. He’s big enough, and we just have to get out of the way so that he can work through us to just be part of what he’s doing, and it’s just ‑‑ yeah, it’s a beautiful picture.

WES: Yeah. Amen. Well, Leah, when you were talking about bringing Eden home and telling her that story, I couldn’t help but think that that was, for her, her gospel story. Like that was her good news about how she was loved. Even before she was known, she was loved and she was desired and you had a plan for her, and then you brought her into your family, and how that models the good news story that we get to experience and hear every Sunday and every day of our life, that we were known and desired and loved even before we were born, that God had this plan to bring us into his family. That’s what the book of Ephesians is all about, is how even the Gentiles, even those of us that were far away from the promises of God, God had this plan and desire for us to be part of his multi‑ethnic family.  And we do ‑‑ to your point earlier, we look different and we come from different backgrounds and different nationalities and ethnicities and he brings us into this family, and we know that we are loved and we are adopted, and ‑‑ Kyle, to use your word ‑‑ redeemed.  I’ve learned here recently that that word “redeemed” means that God is acting as a kinsman. He’s acting as a relative, to do what a relative is supposed to do, to bring back the person who is estranged, and that’s what he has done for us even though he was under no obligation, especially to those of us that are Gentiles and outside of the family of Israel, and he’s acted as our kinsman redeemer, and that’s what you have done for your daughters. And just like marriage is this image of the gospel, of the love and commitment and submission of Jesus and the church, your family is also this picture of the gospel. And so thank you for letting those of us who know you see that every day, but letting all those that are listening to this podcast see that our families can be a picture of the good news that Jesus has brought to us. 

So let me ask you this as we kind of wrap up. What’s the primary thing that you wish Christians understood about adoption? I imagine there are lots of myths and misunderstandings and things that you wish that you could help people to understand about adoption, and maybe you might cover more than one thing, but at least what’s the primary thing that you wish your brothers and sisters in Christ understood about adoption?

LEAH: Probably that it takes nothing special, nothing unique to do it. We are ordinary, broken, floundering‑in‑the‑water parents trying to figure this out just like the rest of you. It just takes a willingness to step outside of your comfort zone and just a trust that God’s gonna walk you through the unknown.  And, also, with adoption comes trauma, and trauma looks different. I’m learning that for each kid. And so if you know parents who are raising children through adoption or through foster care, whether permanent or temporary, tell them they’re doing a good job. Hold their hands. Don’t cast judgment on the way trauma manifests and the way parenting has to look different at times and has to happen, and just help them. Offer support and encouragement, I mean, even for anyone raising children. It doesn’t even have to be foster and adoptive parents. It’s hard. It is a hard job, and so just ‑‑ if we could all encourage each other through that and support each other through that instead of casting judgment and opinions and just enveloping it all in love and support, that would be my encouragement. 

KYLE: I think one of the things that people believe about adoption is that it’s not for everybody or that they can’t do it, or it’s not something that ‑‑ you know, it’s only for super humans or whatever. I don’t know. I do believe that, you know, God has called us to all do different things, and so just because you can’t or don’t feel called to or not able to adopt a child or even foster a child doesn’t mean you can’t get in the process. And so, like Leah said, encourage those people. So, again, if you know people that are doing ‑‑ are in the process of adopting or have adopted children or in the foster system or maybe even themselves have been in those situations, adopted or fostered, you can still get involved. You can become a child advocate. You can, again, pray for them. You can provide respite care in that you are giving them a break. There may be opportunities around your area or in your church or whatever that you can help and provide support. 

We definitely have felt that. We have definitely benefited from the support of people around us and very thankful for that. So just because you are not in a position to foster or adopt a child doesn’t mean that you can’t get involved and can’t help. I think there are lots of ways to do that. We just have to be willing to, again, step out of our comfort zone, surrender to what God is calling us to do, because I do think he has called all believers in him to take care of those who are in need, and children, being definitely in need, there’s opportunities that we can pursue so that we can help in lots of different ways, so…

LEAH: I also ‑‑ I can’t tell you how many times, when people find out our children are adopted, or brought to us through adoption, they’ll say, oh, I thought about that one time, or I wanted to adopt and just never did. If you feel that nudge or that calling, I just implore you to take a leap. There are so many children and birth moms and families that need you. And I just ‑‑ I long for the day when every child has a Christian home to belong to and a family that loves them and that tells them who Jesus is because these kids are all going somewhere. Why not into a believing home that’s gonna teach them about Jesus?

WES: Amen. Well, thank you both for this conversation. Thank you for loving your children so well. Thank you for loving my children so well and for the work that you do at McDermott Road. I love and appreciate both of you, and I’m so thankful for the wonderful example that you are of the gospel in action.

Kyle: Thank you, Wes. Appreciate it. And everything that you do is a blessing, as well. And you tell everybody at McDermott Road every Sunday how much you love and appreciate them. We love and appreciate you and your family, as well. 

LEAH: Definitely.

WES: Thank y’all.

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