As Wes McAdams and Travis Pauley continue their series on, “What is the Kingdom of Heaven,” they discuss the parables of the mustard seed and the leaven (Matthew 13:31-33). What does it mean that the kingdom of heaven is like a tiny mustard seed that grows into a large tree? What does it mean that the kingdom of heaven is like leaven hidden in dough? And how do Jesus’ revelations about the kingdom of heaven change our perception and our lives? We hope you are encouraged by this conversation.

Special thanks to Beth Tabor for transcribing this podcast for us (What is the Kingdom of Heaven – Part 3).

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